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Ten Bulls Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2012.04.29 09:11:00 - [1] - Quote One of the things that sets EVE apart from other games is that there are long term consequences for what you do, both good and bad. Datacores provide a good return for those that plan long term, these long term players are also likely to be good reliable customers for CCP. Datacores have already been nerfed by reducing the standing requirements for agents, if you want to nerf datacores even more, then you should allow a refund for all datacore related skill points (even if they can also be used for invention) and provide another benefit for having high corp standings.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 93	Posted - 2012.05.02 14:03:00 - [2] - Quote CCP Soundwave wrote: Mining with guns was bad because it detracted from real mining. This is bad because it detracts from......what exactly? It detracts from the standing benefits for mission runners. CCP Soundwave wrote: We want to move T2 production more towards low and zero-sec. T2 production is already heavily influenced by zeo-sec, they have exclusive control of supply. CCP Soundwave wrote: This gives us a very cool venue for FW to influence the rest of the universe instead of being a closed-loop system. Where ISK farmers high on the FW priority list ? CCP failing
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 94	Posted - 2012.05.02 22:00:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Soundwave wrote: We want to move T2 production more towards low and zero-sec. Your changes wont achieve the result you desire. Production is done in high sec, because thats where the BUYERS are, its lower risk, and its more time efficient for producers due to scale. The changes your suggesting are only effecting the SUPPLY side of production, which is already controlled by low and zero-sec and it makes production less efficient. Have you ran this idea passed the CSM ?
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 101	Posted - 2012.05.03 05:12:00 - [4] - Quote Damnit, forums ate my post... Short version: Its possible CCP Soundwave might be an honest fool, we need to push the CSM to make him confront the flaws in his plan. Im sure most CSM people take their job seriosuly, let them know its a problem. CSM contact details are in the Jita Park speakers forum
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 103	Posted - 2012.05.03 10:07:00 - [5] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: (...) Mining with guns was bad because it detracted from real mining. This is bad because it detracts from......what exactly? We want to move T2 production more towards low and zero-sec. This gives us a very cool venue for FW to influence the rest of the universe instead of being a closed-loop system. And just when you thought CCP couldn't out-fuk themselves, they manage to successfully shatter a new boundary of stupidity. What's wrong with moving T2 production to 0.0? Nothing stopping T2 production from happening in zero-sec at the moment, it would be more efficient as it would save them hauling the moon good to empire. The only ingredient missing from zero-sec is datacores. However, if your building T2 stuff in zero-sec to use in zero-sec it would be much easier to move datacores from high sec to zero-sec than move the moon good from zero-sec to high-sec due to volumes. In terms of reducing risk and cost of production it makes even more sense to research BPC's in empire and haul the bpc's out top zero-sec, and them build T2 produce with moon goo from zero-sec. But if we are really talking about T2 production thats sole purpose is to be exported and sold in high-sec then manufacturing in zero-sec and hauling manufactured produce to high sec would be a logistical nightmare as produced stuff has higher volume. In other words, the way it is now is as efficient as it can be. But this is all meaningless talk as CCP Soundwave's idea that moving datacores from high-sec to low-sec is going to move T2 production to zero-sec has no rational basis behind it. Hes proposed a bad solution to fix a problem that doesnt exist.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 114	Posted - 2012.05.07 00:04:00 - [6] - Quote Chris Tao wrote: But to be honest i do believe that Soudnwave is a very smart person and has grate ideas i don't see the reason why he gets bashed in this thread. If you are right, he still deserved to "bashed in this thread" because - A well implemented stupid idea is still a stupid idea. - He shouldnt need YOU to explain his ideas to the community.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 114	Posted - 2012.05.07 00:32:00 - [7] - Quote Duoh... i knew that link to blizzard was clue !!! "So the 200lp will come at a cost of 300k isk value so thats 1500 isk/LP" - Chris Tao I need it explained.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 116	Posted - 2012.05.07 02:18:00 - [8] - Quote Chris Tao wrote: Ten Bulls wrote: Duoh... i knew that link to blizzard was clue !!! "So the 200lp will come at a cost of 300k isk value so thats 1500 isk/LP" - Chris Tao I need it explained. are you freaking serious?? What is it that you need explained, basic third grade math? Is 1500 isk/Lp good or bad ?
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 128	Posted - 2012.05.14 00:40:00 - [9] - Quote Tessla Coil wrote: I ran some numbers, based on info pulled from the dev blog. FW people can buy datacores in a block of 5 for 200K and 200 LP. "First, the offer requirements in the respective faction LP store will decrease. As such, at the lowest tier, LP store offers will be 4x times more expensive as they are now, while at the highest tier, they will be 4 times as cheap" - http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28659 "We do realize a 16x multiplier to be quite high, which is why we will keep looking at this situation and change it if need be." - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1278754#post1278754 So that 200k ISK + 200LP isnt very relevent, its actually a floating price, its high point is 16 times its low point
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 128	Posted - 2012.05.14 01:16:00 - [10] - Quote Tessla Coil wrote: Ten Bulls wrote: Tessla Coil wrote: I ran some numbers, based on info pulled from the dev blog. FW people can buy datacores in a block of 5 for 200K and 200 LP. So that 200k ISK + 200LP isnt very relevent, its actually a floating price, its high point is 16 times its low point Yes, I read the dev blog, but I don't see how this multiple tier thing is relevant. Enlighten me. One day a FW player might be able to buy a datacore for 200K ISK + 200LP, the next day/week/month the same datacore might only cost them 50K ISK + 50LP. Im not sure what the high and low points are specifically.
Ten Bulls Sons of Olsagard 128	Posted - 2012.05.14 12:32:00 - [11] - Quote To be consistent, they should ban BPO research next. Once a BPO is researched, you dont have to do anything to keep getting the benefits of research. Or make all BPO's degrade over time ?

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